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Rogue Trooper
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Posted: Oct. 31 2010,03:31

Hi Guys.

I've posted some new pictures in the gallery of my pit. Still waiting for ThinkoutoftheBox to sort themselves out so I can get a decent display.

Giving up on the cheap and nasty gave controllers(used for switches and breakers due to reliability issues - go figure!). I will be using a simkits 32 digital input controller.

I modified the display on the Directional Gyro and changed the hands on the altimeter to give it a more realistic luck. Also have added a 5mm LED to the TOT. The Turn and slip indicator is a very basic setup using a small simkits gauge, the standard dual needles (one painted black with a plastic 6mm BB stuck to the end! a blank face plate used with indicator marks cut from sheet styrene and glued in place).

Warning panel is my next project. Simon has provided me with the utilities necessary to use it with the dodo and I have a phidget LED64 to drive the thing. Cannot find anywhere to download Alan Dyers FS2 Phidgets software (All links broken/out of date) mycockpit.com appears down. Does anyone have a copy I could download?? Thanks for the info Jess.

I also want to add a rotor brake so will look at fabricating the handle this week while I wait for the new switch controller to arrive.

If anyone living in the US wants some genuine 206 parts(He won't ship anywhere else  ), a guy is selling them out of South Africa at the moment on eBay - including the magical cyclic base bearing that Tommy worked so hard to replicate!

I'll post a few more pics in th coming weeks.

Have just changed the cyclic grip to a more realistic looking one, its actually from an old thrustmaster joystick.

Cheers,
Stuart :o)
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Posted: Oct. 31 2010,08:57

Hey Stuart,

what an outstanding job! Congrats my friend!!

Keep on posting pics.
I'm using the SimKits gauges too - but unfortunately not the usb version mine are from the generation before.
I hope to get mine working well with the DODO some day too.
But it's still a long to go.

Please keep us update with your project!!

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If anyone living in the US wants some genuine 206 parts(He won't ship anywhere else  ), a guy is selling them out of South Africa at the moment on eBay - including the magical cyclic base bearing that Tommy worked so hard to replicate!


Can you send me the link please.

looking forward to see what's coming on next

Tommy
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Rogue Trooper
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Posted: Oct. 31 2010,09:07

Hey Tommy,

My guages were the older type, I'm still using the CCU2 for the DGI, AH, ASI, ADF, VOR and the Turn and slip indicator. Only the T&Ps, fuel, load fuel and enngine gauges need the simkits hardware utilities so everything else works fine.
I purchased the USB boards to convert my older Multicontroller gauges into USB.

EBay seller is shanebond007  if you want to see what hes selling. Some of the auctions close in 12hrs!.
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Posted: Oct. 31 2010,13:51

Quote (Rogue Trooper @ Oct. 30 2010,22:31)
Warning panel is my next project. Simon has provided me with the utilities necessary to use it with the dodo and I have a phidget LED64 to drive the thing. Cannot find anywhere to download Alan Dyers FS2 Phidgets software (All links broken/out of date) mycockpit.com appears down. Does anyone have a copy I could download?? Thanks for the info Jess.

MyCockpit.org has the FS2Phidgets in the download section and I just downloaded version FS2Phidget 5.0.2.1 as a test.
You do have to be a member to download, I believe.

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If all else fails let me know, I don't think he would mind if I sent it to you.

-Jess


Edited by splash_one on Oct. 31 2010,15:20

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Posted: Oct. 31 2010,16:02

Hey Stuart - You're my man!

I'm running the older gauges too (CCU2 and the TRC programmable muti controller)...

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I purchased the USB boards to convert my older Multicontroller gauges into USB.

Are your talking about this Item?!?  ???

It seems that your have already passed what I'm heading for.

Simon tried allready to help me getting the gauges work propperly, but it wasn't possible that days...
...It seems that you both found to a solution which works fine now...
My appeal to you is to guide me through to get my gauges work authentic too - when I will have reached that contstruction level of my project... (some day) :D

Tommy
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Posted: Nov. 01 2010,02:56

Hey thanks guys,
Tommy, I was using the same controller board, but have replaced it with 6 of these Simkits electronics
You can run two single pointer guages off the one board, which saves a bit of cash.

Jess I'll try downloading fs2phidgets and let you know.

Cheers,
Stuart
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Posted: Nov. 01 2010,17:32

ouch!
That sounds expensive...
Though to get a "cheaper" answer.

Tommy


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Posted: Nov. 01 2010,19:18

If you can find out what FSUIPC offset is needed for each of the specific old SimKits gauges then I could likely get it going.  A whole FSUIPC log is no good to me though.  I need specific info.

Si
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Tommy
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Posted: Nov. 01 2010,21:17

Hi Simon,

sounds very promising.
But I will not hijacking Stuarts Post, so please follow me to my reply
to this post.

Tommy
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Posted: May 13 2011,02:15

I've posted a very badly made video of a startup and shutdown of my pit on youtube


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qq4ptsn8je0


Cheers,
Stuart :o)
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Posted: May 13 2011,11:30

Beautiful main and overhead panels, and the annunciator turned out great, really nice work Stuart.

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Posted: May 13 2011,22:14

Hi Stuart,

congrats!
What a job - looks great from "top to toe"

I like most your details - like the signal light of the TOT

Brilliant craftsmanship man!
I'll shoot some questions at you when I'm back on my main panel...

Tommy
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Posted: May 14 2011,20:52

Stuart, your pit is awesome  :O and the video too. I'm so proud of the bunch of ingenius people like you, well done my friend. Oh ya, by the way I like your helmet.

Paul  :;):
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Posted: May 15 2011,02:58

Have a look over at www.opencockpits.com it seems to be a lot cheaper than simkits

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Posted: May 16 2011,07:34

Very nice Stuart!
Is that the Elite avionics stack you are using? Been wanting to find out how well it works with FSX and dodo before I make a decision what stack to buy.

charl :D
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Posted: May 22 2011,23:19

Hi Charlie,

That is a Elite 4000 radio stack. The 4000 series is modular which allow a bit of customisation. Drawbacks are they are all the same size (DME same height as a NAV COMM - bigger footprint), each uses a seperate USB, not daisy chained on the rear and the big issue for me was they are physically wider than the pedestal of the 206. The Units are a little over 22cm wide which required a re-design of the pedestal and encrouches on my pedals.
It looks great and functions as the real units would. No memory function for channels is a let down and there is no localiser on the nav display as with the real king unit.
The units apparently have much more cabability than is currently available under FSX. The transponder Mode does nothing as does the ident button and the Unit OFF buttons on the Nav Comm radios but they serve well as a procedural aid.
Not sure if the 3000 might be a better option with the Autopilot removed/obscured. It would fit in the 206 pedestal.
I think if I was doing it over I would build or buy a GarSim 530. The instructions to do it yourself are still floating around or you can buy them ready made from Emutech (think thats right). Unlike the simkits GNS500 which has no nav comm the GarSim is the full deal with both radios built in. An excellect choice for your comm, radio and GPS nav needs.

Cheers,
Stuart  :)
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Posted: May 23 2011,11:14

Thanks for the helpful info Stuart!
very much appreciated! :D
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Posted: Nov. 13 2011,06:09

I haven't posted anything for awhile, so a little update. Most of the changes I've made recently have been cosmetic.

I have tidied up the radio stack filling in the gap below the xpndr and reinforcing the central panel which wobbled when you through hydraulics or anti-ice.
Added a cork throttle grip. The default copycat grip was thinner that a real 206 grip so all I had to do was apply a 3mm thick length of cork over the top, superglued in place, sanded and then filled the gap with hot melt glue which was then sanded smooth.
My cyclic grip has now been fixed at a 20 degree angle as suggested by splash_one which makes controlling a lot easier and comfortable.
Dodo custom switch mappings applied.
Cosmetic panel changes - pull to cage on the AH and the ALT extension around the scale adjustment knob.

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TOOB are re launching so hopefully they won't delay rolling out additional models. They.ve priced a 1.2m at $999 ouch! A year and a half ago I ordered a 1.8m which was then $799, they canned my order before delivery and told me to wait as it would be more affordable once they re-branded, hmmm.
The other thing I've been playing with is the simkits gauges. While doing some auto rotations I noticed the inner MPH scale is totally out. I had been referring to the two bell helicopter auto videos on utube for reference which tend to give speeds in MPH. Anyway they recommend a descent AS of 60MPH (52KTS). On the printed gauge 60MPH actually equated to 41 KTS. As a result I blanked out the inner numbering which is incorrect up to the 100MPH as its semi accurate after that. I then added new numbering with stencil numbers. It doesn't look great but accuracy Is what I was going for. The printed index marks are out too. Now the 60Mph aligns a little below the 50kts mark. It will do till I print a photo of a real gauge.
If anyone has a good high res image of a 206 airspeed gauge they would like to share that would be great.
The other big change has been to the pointers on most of the simkits gauges.
The default pointers are just too long. Most point past the scale which obscure the colored arcs. So I have trimmed down most of the needles. The dual tachy needed special attention. The turbine needle I shortened and removed the "flag" tab making it a straight needle (fitted on some 206s this adds to easier readability. Also the "T" acts as an index point for the rotor needle) and shortend the rotor needle and angled the squared edges of the flag.
I've attached some photo for you amusement! Cheers
Stuart  :)











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Posted: Nov. 13 2011,18:12

Outstanding work, that makes the certified units I have seen look like kids toys.

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Posted: Nov. 13 2011,21:18

Yep!

I'm pale as ivory...

What a job!

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